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		<title>On Mass and Moshpits</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve thought about this, on and off over the years, and while I tend to be fairly loathe to really get into it about anything to do with religion 1, I figure sometimes you have to gather your thoughts and brain-dump them somewhere. That and I&#8217;ve never been one for paper journals. Child of the &#8230; <a href="https://www.rachelcavalier.co.uk/2012/11/29/on-mass-and-moshpits/" class="more-link">Continue reading<span class="screen-reader-text"> "On Mass and Moshpits"</span></a>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought about this, on and off over the years, and while I tend to be fairly loathe to really get into it about anything to do with religion <sup>1</sup>, I figure sometimes you have to gather your thoughts and brain-dump them somewhere.</p>
<p>That and I&#8217;ve never been one for paper journals. Child of the internet and all that.</p>
<p>Plus I&#8217;ve been reading <a title="The Power of Place on Goodreads" href="http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1350493.The_Power_of_Place" target="_blank"><em>The Power of Place</em></a> by Winifred Gallagher which touches briefly on some of the thoughts that I&#8217;ve had.</p>
<p>So. What was I thinking about? Mostly, the similarities between the experience of being in a moshpit and of going to Mass. Admittedly, Â it is possible that there isn&#8217;t an obvious connection. For the most part, I suspect it&#8217;s a very subjective thing &#8211; which, yes, that is entirely what experiences from my viewpoint are. That&#8217;s the thing with personal experience. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/1f609.png" alt="😉" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>To begin: The first proper gig I went to was AFI&#8217;s Nightmare After Christmas <sup>2</sup> show at the London Astoria in January 2002 &#8211; before that, I&#8217;d been to the Reading Festival a couple of times. I would have been 17. It was amazing. AFI were and still are a band that I love with all of my heart &#8211; in the way that the bands you love as a teenager stay with you for the rest of your life and for me, it&#8217;s not just the music they made then, when I first got into them. I&#8217;m lucky enough that the direction their music has taken has coincided with the spread of my own taste in music.</p>
<p>Being there at the front, surrounded by other fans of AFI, was a phenomenal experience. It felt kind of transcendent &#8211; like we all had the same joy in our hearts and were all part of the same one thing. Which I suppose we were &#8211; we were all in the same crowd, pressed together with all the heat and sweat of the pit, connected by love of the same band. I&#8217;ve had the same kind of feeling at other gigs since then &#8211; usually when I&#8217;ve seen AFI but also at a few Alkaline Trio and Gaslight Anthem gigs. I think there&#8217;s something special about the first band to really grab your heart though.</p>
<p>Now, as some of you might know, I&#8217;m Catholic. I believe in God, transubstantiation, the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection, blah blah blah and all that. Â I go to church on Sundays and holy days of obligation. I go on pilgrimage to Walsingham every year<sup> 3</sup>. Â I don&#8217;t feel especially religious <sup>4</sup>, but I guess to a lot of people I am due to my somewhat active involvement with my faith. On the other hand, I guess since I&#8217;ve got a foot in the door, I get to see all the other people on the inside who are far more involved and active and who I would consider as &#8220;religious&#8221;. Now, that feeling of almost transcendent oneness is a feeling that I sometimes feel at Mass &#8211; mostly when singing certain religious songs, hymns or particularly rousing requiem Masses in Latin. It&#8217;s a thing that happens.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure I had a point (other than this whole thing being a bit interesting) back in August when I started writing this post &#8211; but I remember that I got interrupted halfway through and it&#8217;s been sitting in my drafts ever since. I figured I should at least round it off a little and release it into the wild.</p>
<p>To finish, however, is a <a title="comment on Frank Turner's reddit AMA" href="http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/qeq1q/frank_turner_ama/c3x1evq" target="_blank">comment I posted on Frank Turner&#8217;s reddit AMA </a>on a thread where someone was asking about reactions to his atheist hymn &#8220;Glory Hallelujah&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>I really like Glory Hallelujah as a song. I also really like singing along at gigs &#8211; it gives me a comparable high/buzz to when I&#8217;m really into it singing in Latin about death on Good Friday at church or like&#8230;a really good worship hymn that doesn&#8217;t make me cringe while I&#8217;m singing it.</p>
<p>I have discovered that I can&#8217;t sing along to Glory Hallelujah. At all. I open my mouth and nothing comes out. I think my brain short-circuits at the paradox.</p></blockquote>
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<p><sup>1 </sup>Because, hey, each to their own really, so long as it doesn&#8217;t impact negatively on others.</p>
<p><sup>2 </sup>Â Which after a bit of searching is apparently the greatest show that AFI ever did. Or so I am told.</p>
<p><sup>3 </sup> This one is a story all on its own, involving the unlikely but apparently somewhat miraculous event of my conception. Probably not one for sharing all the details.</p>
<p><sup>4</sup> There&#8217;s probably also a story here where I talk about how atheists/agnostics I know have told me how &#8220;normal&#8221; I seem for a practising Christian, how with the blue hair etc I look a little unconventional and how my faith, appearance and taste in music are all tied into not caring if I&#8217;m like anyone else.</p>
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